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Frown Lines (the 11s): Botox, Dysport or Filler?

What causes frown lines (the 11s), Botox vs Dysport for frown lines, when filler is used and its risks, options for etched lines, side effects and frown line treatment prices in Carlsbad.

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Frown Lines: Botox, Dysport or Filler? Glow Theory Aesthetic & Dermatology Studio, Carlsbad

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Frown lines, or the 11s, are vertical lines between the brows caused by the corrugator and procerus muscles pulling the brows together. Botox (FDA-approved 2002, 20-unit label dose) and Dysport (approved 2009) are the first choice, start working within days, reach full effect at about two weeks and last 3 to 4 months. Filler is used only for deep, etched lines that remain after toxin, cautiously, because this area has a higher risk of filler complications.

  • Frown lines come from muscles pulling the brows together.
  • Botox and Dysport are both FDA-approved for frown lines.
  • Botox's label dose is 20 units; Dysport uses about 2.5 times as many units.
  • Results last about 3 to 4 months.
  • Filler is used cautiously here because of vascular risk.
  • Regular toxin plus collagen treatments soften etched lines.
  • Sunglasses and less squinting help prevent the 11s.
On this page 8 sections
  1. What causes frown lines?
  2. Botox vs Dysport for frown lines
  3. Can filler treat the 11s?
  4. Other options for etched lines
  5. Side effects
  6. Frown line treatment cost at Glow Theory
  7. Frown line treatment in Carlsbad
  8. Frequently asked questions

Frown lines, often called “the 11s,” are the vertical lines between the eyebrows. They form because the corrugator and procerus muscles pull the brows together every time you frown, squint or concentrate, and over the years the creases stay even when your face is relaxed. Botox and Dysport are the first choice: both are FDA-approved for frown lines, start working within days and last about 3 to 4 months. Filler is used only occasionally, for deep etched lines that remain after toxin, because this area carries a higher risk of filler complications.

This guide explains what causes the 11s, how Botox and Dysport compare for them, when filler is considered, and how to keep the lines from coming back.

20 unitsBotox FDA-approved dose for frown lines, in 5 injection points
2 to 3 daysfor Dysport to start working; full effect at about 2 weeks
3 to 4 monthstypical results from Botox or Dysport

What causes frown lines?

  • Muscle movement: frowning, squinting and concentrating pull the brows together and down.
  • Habits: screen time, squinting in bright sun without sunglasses and a habitually furrowed brow.
  • Sun damage and age: collagen loss lets creases set in at rest.
  • Genetics: some people simply have stronger frown muscles.

Lines that appear only when you frown are dynamic and smooth out fully with toxin. Lines visible at rest are static, and may need a few rounds of toxin, plus skin treatments, to soften.

Botox vs Dysport for frown lines

Botox

FDA-approved 2002

  • Typical dose20 units on the label; we tailor 15 to 30
  • OnsetA few days; full at about 2 weeks
  • LastsAbout 3 to 4 months

Dysport

FDA-approved 2009

  • Typical doseMore units (about 2.5 times Botox), at a lower price per unit
  • OnsetOften 2 to 3 days; full at 10 to 14 days
  • LastsAbout 3 to 4 months

Both give similar results, and the total price for the area is similar. See Dysport vs Botox and Xeomin vs Botox vs Dysport for more detail.

Can filler treat the 11s?

Sometimes, but cautiously. Deep frown lines that remain etched in at rest after a few rounds of toxin can be softened with a small amount of a soft hyaluronic acid filler. The area between the brows has small blood vessels connected to those supplying the eye, so it is one of the higher-risk places for filler complications, including rare vision problems. Most injectors use toxin first and add filler only when needed, with very careful technique.

Other options for etched lines

  • Regular toxin: keeping the muscle relaxed for a year or more lets etched creases soften.
  • Collagen treatments: Morpheus8, HALO or erbium resurfacing improve the skin itself.
  • Skincare: a retinoid and daily sunscreen protect collagen; see our retinol guide.

Frown lines are often treated together with forehead lines and crow’s feet; see forehead wrinkles.

Side effects

Expect tiny bumps or redness at the injection points for a short time, and possible small bruises. A headache can occur. Rarely, toxin affects a nearby muscle and causes a heavy brow or droopy eyelid, which wears off over a few weeks. Avoid rubbing the area and lying flat for a few hours after treatment; see our Botox aftercare guide.

Frown line treatment cost at Glow Theory

Botox

Frown lines$210 – $420

Members$178.50 – $357

Dysport

Frown lines$209.25 – $418.50

Members$177.75 – $355.50

Botox is $14 per unit and Dysport $4.65 per unit. See our Botox price guide.

Frown line treatment in Carlsbad

Our injectors check how strongly you frown and where your brows sit, then choose the brand and dose that softens the 11s while keeping your expression natural. See Dysport in Carlsbad and Botox in Carlsbad, or book a visit at our studio on El Camino Real in South Carlsbad.

Dysport CarlsbadSoften frown lines and wrinkles with Dysport, a fast-acting neuromodulator that gives smooth, natural-looking results.See treatment, prices and results
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Frequently asked questions

What is the best treatment for frown lines?

Botox or Dysport, which relax the muscles that cause them. Both are FDA-approved for frown lines.

How many units of Botox for the 11s?

The FDA-approved dose is 20 units across five injection points; we tailor between about 15 and 30 units.

Is Dysport or Botox better for frown lines?

They give similar results. Dysport may start a day or two sooner; total cost for the area is similar.

Can filler fix deep 11 lines?

Sometimes, in small amounts after toxin, but this area has a higher risk of filler complications, so it needs an experienced injector.

How long does Botox last for frown lines?

About 3 to 4 months.

Can frown lines go away permanently?

Not permanently, but regular toxin keeps them smooth and lets etched lines soften over time.

Sources

  1. Botox Cosmetic prescribing information. Allergan
  2. Dose equivalency pilot study of Xeomin vs Dysport. Plastic and Aesthetic Research, 2015

Insiyah Darugar

MSN, FNP · Founder & CEO

Insiyah Darugar, MSN, FNP is the founder and CEO of Glow Theory Aesthetic & Dermatology Studio in Carlsbad. She brings more than 15 years of hands-on experience in dermatology and aesthetics and completed the Dermatology Nurse Practitioner Fellowship at Lahey Hospital & Medical Center, a…

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